Why does lag protect sometimes fail? I had no timers or triggers. Lagprotect is on and autoattack is off. I was alt tabbed during the death. I know I probably shouldn't rely on lagprotect to keep me from dying, but I have connection problems anyways. If I am causing lagprotect to fail I would like to know how to correct it. I'm sure it had plenty of time to fire, I dodged a bunch and wasn't hit for more than 7.


Dense Woods

You are deep in the dense woods of Southbeach Park.
Obvious exits: south.
You see three treants.

(67 H 43 M 99,000X): The 3rd treant just wanders to the south.
(67 H 43 M 99,000X): Two slicer beetles just arrived.
(67 H 43 M 99,000X): The 2nd slicer beetle attacks you.
The slicer beetle attacks you.
(67 H 43 M 99,000X): You learn from your mistakes, you have become better at Block!
The 2nd slicer beetle hit you for 7 damage.
Your dwarven plate leggings just got a little more scratched.
The slicer beetle hit you for 7 damage.
Your chain mail neckguard just got a little more scratched.
(53 H 43 M 99,000X): The 2nd slicer beetle missed you.
You manage to partially block the slicer beetle's attack!
The slicer beetle hit you for 4 damage.
(49 H 43 M 99,000X): You easily dodge the 2nd slicer beetle's attack.
The slicer beetle hit you for 8 damage.
Your chain mail neckguard just got a little more scratched.
(41 H 43 M 99,000X): The 2nd slicer beetle hit you for 7 damage.
The slicer beetle hit you for 7 damage.
(27 H 43 M 99,000X): You barely manage to dodge the 2nd slicer beetle's attack.
The slicer beetle hit you for 8 damage.
Your shadow cloak just got a little more scratched.
(19 H 43 M 99,000X): You laugh at the 2nd slicer beetle as you easily dodge his attack.
The slicer beetle hit you for 7 damage.
(12 H 43 M 99,000X): The 2nd slicer beetle hit you for 7 damage.
The slicer beetle hit you for 7 damage.
The slicer beetle killed you!
### Sadly, Inoxia was killed by a slicer beetle.
You have become afflicted with death sickness.
You have lost 10000 experience.
You drop your weapon.

Limbo

You are dead. You are in Limbo. It's a terrible place.
Obvious exits: light.

(67 H 43 M 109,000X): Your death-sickness causes you to vomit. EWWW.
You become disoriented.
(67 H 43 M 109,000X): Your death-sickness causes you to vomit. EWWW.
(67 H 43 M 109,000X):
help set
....·····.....·····/ ·····.....·····....
· . . · · . | Help on: set, clear, toggle, pref | . · · . . ·
····.....·····..... /.....·····.....····

These three commands will allow you to change you preferences. To view a
list of your preferences, simply type any one of them by itself. The
"preference" command acts as "toggle" when given a specific preference.

Some notes:

For information on the "lagprotect" and "lagrecall" preference, type
"help lagprotect".

It is recommended you leave the "summon" preference off until you need to
turn
it on it. It prevents other players from moving your character across the
world without your permission.

(67 H 43 M 109,000X): Your death-sickness causes you to vomit. EWWW.
You become disoriented.
(67 H 43 M 109,000X):
set
Below is a list of preference categories. To view a cateogry, type
"pref -[category]". To view all preferences, type "pref -all".

Color
Channels
Notifications
Combat
Group
Display
Miscellaneous

(67 H 43 M 109,000X): ### Krakken Dae'mon just logged off.
(67 H 43 M 109,000X): ### Asura the Cambion Beastmistress just logged in.
(67 H 43 M 109,000X):
set combat
Unknown preference.
(67 H 43 M 109,000X):
pref all
Unknown preference.
(67 H 43 M 109,000X):
pref -all
Color
mirc :: mirc colors :: off
ansi :: ansi colors :: on
langcolor :: language colors :: on
extracolor :: extra color options :: on
areacolor :: invert area colors :: off
mxpcolors :: use MXP for more than 16 colors :: off

Channels
cls :: class channel :: on
race :: race channel :: on
broad :: broadcast channel :: on
newbie :: newbie channel :: on
gossip :: gossip channel :: on
clan :: clan channel :: on
tells :: send/tell/whisper/sign :: on
sms :: receive text messages :: on
ignore :: ignore all channels ::

Notifications
duel :: duel messages :: on
login :: login messages :: on
shopprofit :: shop profit notifications :: on
mail :: mudmail notifications :: on
permdeath :: perm death broadcasts :: on
auction :: player auctions :: on
showforum :: notification of forum posts :: on
forumbrevity :: forum posts notification length :: brief
notifications :: show all notifications ::

Combat
autoattack :: auto attack :: off
lagprotect :: lag protection :: on
lagrecall :: recall potion if below half hp :: on
wimpy :: flee when HP below this number :: off
killaggros :: attack aggros first :: on
mobnums :: monster ordinal numbers :: on

Group
group :: group combat messages :: on
xpsplit :: group experience split :: off
split :: split gold among group :: off
stats :: show group your stats :: on
follow :: can be followed :: on

Display
showall :: show all preferences :: off
compact :: compacts most output :: off
tick :: shows ticks :: off

Miscellaneous
autowear :: wear all on login :: on
short :: short description :: on
long :: long description :: off
prompt :: descriptive prompt :: on
nlprompt :: newline after prompt :: off
summon :: can be summoned :: off
xpprompt :: show exp in prompt :: on
afk :: away from keyboard :: off
statistics :: track statistics :: on
skillprogress :: show skill progress bar :: off

You got beat up before it fired. Probably just barely, but you got killed before it fired.
It'll be less of a problem when you're higher level with more HP, better armor, and better defense. I think you just had bad luck.

Nothing is wrong with lag protection. This is perhaps the 5th complaint about it "not working" since it was coded over 7 years ago. I can tell you it goes off fine with regularity. We log every time it fires.

The help file for lagprotect says 10+ seconds, I'm currently letting a rat beat on my zerker in an attempt to get lagprotect to fire. I've ticked at least 3 or 4 times now while alt tabbed and lagprotect will not fire. Should I assume it only works if I'm genuinely lagged out? I seem to remember it used to work when I was afk too.


(104 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your glacier-studded gloves just got a little more scratched.
(102 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
(100 H 50,260X): TICK: HP - 109(+9) tick1
(109 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your chain mail neckguard just got a little more scratched.
(107 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your murkfin leather sleeves just got a little more scratched.
(105 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your glacier-studded gloves just got a little more scratched.
(103 H 50,260X): The 5th gutter rat just wanders to the south.
The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your chain mail neckguard just got a little more scratched.
(101 H 50,260X): Three gutter rats just arrived.
(101 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your chain mail waistguard just got a little more scratched.
(99 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
(97 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your glacier-studded gloves just got a little more scratched.
(95 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
(93 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
(91 H 50,260X): TICK: HP - 100(+9) tick2
The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your adamantine corbite boots just got a little more scratched.
(98 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
(96 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your chain mail waistguard just got a little more scratched.
(94 H 50,260X): The gutter rat missed you.
(94 H 50,260X): A gutter rat just wanders away.
The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your murkfin leather armor just got a little more scratched.
(92 H 50,260X): The gutter rat missed you.
(92 H 50,260X): You easily dodge the gutter rat's attack.
(92 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your murkfin leather sleeves just got a little more scratched.
Your practice pays off, you have become better at Leather Armor!
(90 H 50,260X): You dance gracefully around the gutter rat's attack.
(90 H 50,260X): The gutter rat missed you.
(90 H 50,260X): TICK: HP - 99(+9) tick3
(99 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your chain mail helmet just got a little more scratched.
(97 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your murkfin leather armor just got a little more scratched.
(95 H 50,260X): The gutter rat missed you.
(95 H 50,260X): A gutter rat just wanders away.
The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your adamantine corbite boots just got a little more scratched.
(93 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your adamantine corbite boots just got a little more scratched.
Your practice pays off, you have become better at Plate Armor!
(91 H 50,260X): You easily dodge the gutter rat's attack.
(91 H 50,260X): You dance gracefully around the gutter rat's attack.
(91 H 50,260X): ### Tor Hugehorns just logged off.
(91 H 50,260X): ### Mass the Seraphic Necromancer just logged in.
(91 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your adamantine corbite boots just got a little more scratched.
(89 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your chain mail helmet just got a little more scratched.
(87 H 50,260X): TICK: HP - 96(+9) tick4
(96 H 50,260X): You dance gracefully around the gutter rat's attack.
(96 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your murkfin leather armor just got a little more scratched.
(94 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your murkfin leather sleeves just got a little more scratched.
Your practice pays off, you have become better at Leather Armor!
Screams of the dead can be heard on the wind.
(92 H 50,260X): The Gilded Edge departs for An'honi Island.
(92 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your adamantine corbite boots just got a little more scratched.
(90 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your chain mail waistguard just got a little more scratched.
(88 H 50,260X): You barely manage to dodge the gutter rat's attack.
(88 H 50,260X): You easily dodge the gutter rat's attack.
(88 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your murkfin leather leggings just got a little more scratched.
(86 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your chain mail neckguard just got a little more scratched.
(84 H 50,260X): TICK: HP - 93(+9) tick5
(93 H 50,260X): You barely manage to dodge the gutter rat's attack.
(93 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
(91 H 50,260X): ### Mithas just logged off.
(91 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your murkfin leather leggings just got a little more scratched.
(89 H 50,260X): ### Kefka the Cambion Arcane Assassin (Wizards' Eye) just logged in.
(89 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
(87 H 50,260X): The gutter rat missed you.
(87 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your murkfin leather sleeves just got a little more scratched.
(85 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
(83 H 50,260X): The gutter rat missed you.
(83 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your chain mail neckguard just got a little more scratched.
(81 H 50,260X): The gutter rat missed you.
(81 H 50,260X): TICK: HP - 90(+9) tick6
(90 H 50,260X): The gutter rat missed you.
(90 H 50,260X): A gutter rat just wanders away.
You laugh at the gutter rat as you easily dodge his attack.
(90 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
(88 H 50,260X): ### Sadly, Zagram the Storm Giant was killed by Ryoko.
(88 H 50,260X): You laugh at the gutter rat as you easily dodge his attack.
(88 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
(86 H 50,260X): The gutter rat missed you.
(86 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your adamantine corbite boots just got a little more scratched.
Your practice pays off, you have become better at Plate Armor!
(84 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
(82 H 50,260X): You laugh at the gutter rat as you easily dodge his attack.
(82 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
(80 H 50,260X): TICK: HP - 89(+9) tick7
(89 H 50,260X): You barely manage to dodge the gutter rat's attack.
(89 H 50,260X): The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your murkfin leather sleeves just got a little more scratched.
(87 H 50,260X):
s
The gutter rat hit you for 2 damage.
Your murkfin leather leggings just got a little more scratched.
(85 H 50,260X):
Highport Main/Westport Boulevard

You are at the end of Highport Main Street.
Obvious exits: north, east, south.
You see a gutter rat.


Ok this was conducted with the same controls as inoxia but on my zerker grendel instead. Even after 7 ticks of inactivity nothing happens. I can't get lagprotect to fire on two characters. : (

Post Script: Disaron kindly tested his lagprotect and had no issues. I've tested mine on 4 characters and can't get it to fire. I've been using the same preferences as my post of inoxia above. What could I be doing to cause it not to work? I'm using the same client I was using when it did work and I even unloaded all my settings and tried it.

Is your client sending ANYTHING to the MUD? Lagprotect works on idle time. Unless Bane or Dom fucked with it somehow, it should still be the same.

Would mushclient send anything to the mud and not tell me? I tried it with all the settings unloaded to make sure no triggers or anything would fire and got the same results. I did not have this problem a month or so ago and haven't changed clients or anything just my isp. It just doesn't work anymore. It should work on any mob I let hit me long enough right? I've just been testing on rats. None of my other preferences should affect it?

Also, I tried telnet and could not get lagprotect to fire. It's definitely not the client.

It's definitely your client / connection. I've noticed that your characters always have an idle time of 0, which means the mud thinks you are never idle. If your idle time is always 0, lag protect will never fire. You will also notice that you will never time out.

The mud is definitely receiving something from you atleast every second. It you have a way to debug raw input sent to the mud, that would help - maybe it's some sort of telnet negotiations or something your ISP is doing. I haven't looked into it much, but we can if it's impacting your gameplay.

I have changed my method of connecting to the internet recently. I switched from dialup to verizon's mobile broadband. It uses a little usb modem to connect to a satellite or something. This change correlates with lagprotect no longer functioning. Could that affect it somehow? Is there anyway around it?

It's likely a Mushclient option like anti idle or something.

-Bane

Nope, as I mentioned in an earlier post I tried to get lagprotect to fire on telnet and could not. So that rules out the client. It must be related to my method of connecting to the internet. Is there nothing that can be done?

There are two things that can be done.

Immediate: use "set wimpy #". You will try and flee when you get below # hitpoints. It's not as nice as lagprotect, but it's better than nothing.

Long term: figure out what text your connection keeps sending to the mud. Maybe it's a special "keep-alive" string of control characters. Once we figure out what it is, we can then figure out the best way to ignore it. This solution will take a bit of coding from us and some assistance from you.