You see two lilac ladys.
Now the second weapons seems to work for the ambush but i'm not sure it is all around? maybe i'm missing something but pretty sure just the hammer is hitting? also if i fumble the main weapon i though the second auto fumbles? the one fumble of the hamer the dagger stayed in hand? wasn't sure about that been a while.


(44 H 18 M 3,009X): k lil
You attack the lilac lady.
You bludgeoned the lilac lady for 15 damage.
(44 H 18 M 3,009X): The lilac lady hit you for 9 damage.
Your chain mail boots just got a little more scratched.
Your practice pays off, you have become better at Chain Armor!
k li
(35 H 18 M 3,009X): Please wait 1.3 more seconds.
(35 H 18 M 3,009X): k li
Please wait 0.4 more seconds.
(35 H 18 M 3,009X): k li
You crushed the lilac lady for 16 damage.
(35 H 18 M 3,009X): k li
Please wait 1.6 more seconds.
(35 H 18 M 3,009X): The lilac lady hit you for 8 damage.
(27 H 18 M 3,009X): c v
Vigor spell cast.
(39 H 16 M 3,009X): k li
Please wait 0.2 more seconds.
(39 H 16 M 3,009X): k li
You bludgeoned the lilac lady for 15 damage.
Your practice pays off, you have become better at Hammers!
(39 H 16 M 3,009X): The lilac lady hit you for 8 damage.
Your chain mail waistguard just got a little more scratched.
(31 H 16 M 3,009X): k li
Please wait 0.2 more seconds.
(31 H 16 M 3,009X): k li
You crushed the lilac lady for 15 damage.
You killed the lilac lady.
You gain 65 experience for the death of the lilac lady.
The lilac lady was carrying: 168 gold coins.
get g
(31 H 16 M 2,944X): You get 168 gold coins.
You now have 19542 gold coins.
(31 H 16 M 2,944X): eq
On legs: some chain mail leggings
On neck: a chain mail neckguard
On head: a chain mail helmet
On waist: a chain mail waistguard
On feet: some chain mail boots
On face: a chain mail faceguard
In Hand: a curved dagger
Wielded: a wooden hammer




(37 H 16 M 2,879X): hide
You attempt to hide in the shadows.
You have trouble hiding while inside.
You slip into the shadows unnoticed.
(37 H 16 M 2,879X): eq
On legs: some chain mail leggings
On neck: a chain mail neckguard
On head: a chain mail helmet
On waist: a chain mail waistguard
On feet: some chain mail boots
On face: a chain mail faceguard
In Hand: a curved dagger
Wielded: a wooden hammer
(37 H 16 M 2,879X): amb li
You have become unhidden.
You ambush the lilac lady!
You bludgeoned the lilac lady for 22 damage.
You stabbed the lilac lady for 21 damage.
(37 H 16 M 2,879X): The lilac lady hit you for 10 damage.
Your chain mail waistguard just got a little more scratched.
(27 H 16 M 2,879X): k li
Please wait 1.3 more seconds.
(27 H 16 M 2,879X): k li
You crushed the lilac lady for 16 damage.
You killed the lilac lady.
You gain 65 experience for the death of the lilac lady.
The lilac lady was carrying: 85 gold coins.

(27 H 18 M 2,814X): c v
Vigor spell cast.
(36 H 16 M 2,814X): k joh
You attack the john.
You FUMBLED your weapon.
(36 H 16 M 2,814X): wiel wood 2
sec curv
You wield a wooden hammer.
(36 H 16 M 2,814X): You don't have that.
The john hit you for 6 damage.
Your chain mail boots just got a little more scratched.
(30 H 16 M 2,814X): k joh
You crushed the john for 24 damage.
(30 H 16 M 2,814X): The john hit you for 6 damage.
Your chain mail leggings just got a little more scratched.
(24 H 16 M 2,814X): k joh
Please wait 0.5 more seconds.
(24 H 16 M 2,814X): k joh
You bludgeoned the john for 25 damage.
You killed the john.
You gain 40 experience for the death of the john.
The john was carrying: 53 gold coins.
get g
(24 H 16 M 2,774X): You get 53 gold coins.
You now have 19725 gold coins.
(24 H 16 M 2,774X): eq
On legs: some chain mail leggings
On neck: a chain mail neckguard
On head: a chain mail helmet
On waist: a chain mail waistguard
On feet: some chain mail boots
On face: a chain mail faceguard
In Hand: a curved dagger
Wielded: a wooden hammer


(41 H 16 M 2,774X): eq
On legs: some chain mail leggings
On neck: a chain mail neckguard
On head: a chain mail helmet
On waist: a chain mail waistguard
On feet: some chain mail boots
On face: a chain mail faceguard
In Hand: a curved dagger
Wielded: a wooden hammer
(41 H 16 M 2,774X): A lilac lady just arrived.
(41 H 16 M 2,774X): hide
You attempt to hide in the shadows.
You have trouble hiding while inside.
(41 H 16 M 2,774X): k li
You attack the lilac lady.
You crushed the lilac lady for 12 damage.
Your practice pays off, you have become better at Hammers!
(41 H 16 M 2,774X): k li
Please wait 1.4 more seconds.
(41 H 16 M 2,774X): k li
Please wait 0.4 more seconds.
(41 H 16 M 2,774X): The lilac lady hit you for 9 damage.
Your chain mail faceguard just got a little more scratched.
(32 H 16 M 2,774X): k li
You bludgeoned the lilac lady for 12 damage.
(32 H 16 M 2,774X): k li
Please wait 1.3 more seconds.
(32 H 16 M 2,774X): The lilac lady hit you for 9 damage.
Your chain mail boots just got a little more scratched.
(23 H 16 M 2,774X): k li
Please wait 0.3 more seconds.
(23 H 16 M 2,774X): c v
Vigor spell cast.
(29 H 14 M 2,774X): k li
The lilac lady partially blocked your attack!
You bludgeoned the lilac lady for 6 damage.
(29 H 14 M 2,774X): k li
Please wait 1.1 more seconds.
(29 H 14 M 2,774X): The lilac lady hit you for 10 damage.
Your chain mail boots just got a little more scratched.
(19 H 14 M 2,774X): k li
You missed.
(19 H 14 M 2,774X): k li
Please wait 1.2 more seconds.
(19 H 14 M 2,774X): c v
Vigor spell cast.
(33 H 12 M 2,774X): The lilac lady hit you for 10 damage.
(23 H 12 M 2,774X): k li
You crushed the lilac lady for 11 damage.
(23 H 12 M 2,774X): c v
Please wait 3 more seconds.
(23 H 12 M 2,774X): use sil
Vigor spell cast.
The silver-tubed scroll disintegrates.
The lilac lady hit you for 8 damage.
Your chain mail waistguard just got a little more scratched.
(18 H 16 M 2,774X): k li
You crushed the lilac lady for 12 damage.
(18 H 16 M 2,774X): c v
Vigor spell cast.
(30 H 14 M 2,774X): k li
Please wait 0.5 more seconds.
(30 H 14 M 2,774X): The lilac lady hit you for 8 damage.
Your chain mail helmet just got a little more scratched.
(22 H 14 M 2,774X): k li
CRITICAL hit!
You bludgeoned the lilac lady for 54 damage.
You killed the lilac lady.
You gain 78 experience for the death of the lilac lady.
The lilac lady was carrying: 111 gold coins.
get g
(22 H 14 M 2,696X): You get 111 gold coins.
You now have 19836 gold coins.

note to self....if the weapon is small then doesn't hit as a second?

After a bit of testing, this doesn't seem to have anything to do with the sized weapons.

The problem looks like it's coming from wielding the weapons you receive from training a proficiency as your primary weapon. For some reason, they don't trigger the dual wielding.

In your post above, it looks like you had a wooden hammer. We tested out a wooden mace in game, yielding the same results.

The combinations I tried testing:
* primary wooden, second normal: wooden hit, no second hit
* primary normal, second wooden: normal hit, wooden hit
* primary small, second wooden: small hit, wooden hit
* primary wooden, second small: wooden hit, no second hit
* primary normal, second small: normal hit, small hit
* primary small, second normal: small hit, normal hit

Scientific method FTW.

Usagi wrote:

Scientific method FTW.

I don't see your references...plagiarism!