Your elder lord's sword glows with power against the roc.
You pierced the roc for 29 damage.
(200 H 123 M 0X): k ro
Please wait 2.6 more seconds.
k ro
k ro
(200 H 123 M 0X): The ancient dracolich attacks the roc.
(200 H 123 M 0X): Please wait 2.4 more seconds.
(200 H 123 M 0X): Please wait 2.4 more seconds.
(200 H 123 M 0X): Please wait 2.3 more seconds.
(200 H 123 M 0X): Please wait 2.2 more seconds.
(200 H 123 M 0X): The roc flails his sharp talons wildly!

The roc sweeps his wings around in circles, flailing sharp talons into the air.
The roc rips and shreds you for 20 damage!
The roc ripped and shredded Tor for 44 damage, he's getting bruised.
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Pet> The roc sweeps his wings around in circles, flailing sharp talons into the air.
The roc rips and shreds you for 48 damage!
The roc ripped and shredded the ancient dracolich for 48 damage, she's dead!
The roc killed the ancient dracolich.
The ancient dracolich's body has been destroyed.
The ancient dracolich was killed by the roc.



Umm...does the roc have a +3 wings? This is the first thing (mob/perm) that has ever hit my Dracolich. If things are going to get changed here and there can we at least look into my pets PLEASE??

I think i've devoted enough time to this char to get another look. This pet hits for 20's, I've recently read up on the Ancient Dracolich like Dominus said to, And I tihnk this "DRAGON" should be gargantuan, and should be hitting for AT LEAST 40's not 17 on things. Perhaps a few extra attacks as well, all it does it hit/miss (ranges from 12-17 on seriously anything doesn't matter on level apparently, it just hits more often on lower mobs instead of harder)
Since its a dragon Should it not Claw? or Tailwhip? maybe like this Roc and Swing his big ass Bone WINGS around. maybe have some sort of Breath attack like ALL other dragons do. This is supposed to be my best pet too..and it hits for teens. Sorry to say this, I mean no disrespect, but thats retarded.

(i Haven't even gotten to my other pets...*sigh*)

The balance of conjures has been bothering me for a while now. Of course, my opinions come from someone who hasn't really played any high conjuring characters, so I could be wrong.

But from what I've seen, I don't really understand why conjures are so powerful in this game. If it weren't for the new level of masochism and prestige of playing a multi-class, I would have long ago traded in Plu for a conjuring cleric. I really feel that conjures should be more of a "bonus" for playing your class and not a crutch for your main source of damage. It's not like your character is completely useless without the conjure.

Also, is there a reason why only the cleric conjures receive skills? Sure, I can maybe understand why Gradius conjures might be stronger. Keeping a grey aura is a bit of a pain. But it's not so hard for Aramons to camp out all day at blue mobs. Druids and bards do not have pets that trample, circle, bite, or whatever.

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Umm...does the roc have a +3 wings? This is the first thing (mob/perm) that has ever hit my Dracolich. If things are going to get changed here and there can we at least look into my pets PLEASE??

Werewolves are magical creatures, thus in a duel, you need + weapons to hit my wolf. But does that mean some mobs just shouldn't be able to hit me? I don't know why your dracolich doesn't get hit normally, but I personally think it's a little overpowered already. Pets should be there to take damage that should have been dealt on you, if anything.

Anyways, I think that the conjuring situation is already quite generous. They still cast good spells, you actually gain a bit of extra experience for having pets out, and I'm not even going to get started on the balance between conjuring and non-conjuring classes ...

High level pets not being able to get hit by mobs is a bug and always has been.

That is all.

A roc doesn't need +3 wings to hit your "+3 to hit needed" dracolich. It is also a conjured, thus magical, creature. Besides...Usagi is right(gasp i didnt really say that, did i?!).....pets are generous as is.

They will eventually all be redone. The way they are now, is aramon, and elemental pets are actually created mobs using a mob# and saved individually. Thus, they all have specific abilities and defenses that i worked out on a spreadsheet a LONG time ago. The conjures, however, just have base stats from an array, and no abilities. The pets all will eventually be redone to be dynamic like those, and redone in some XML format. Then they will get abilities also.

In any case, we have too many damn pets as is. Usagi is right again (OMG..)...they shouldn't be your primary source of damage..they are a bonus.

Having played for a while with the highest tiers Aramon pets, I agree that their line of conjures was indeed overpowered offensively at levels 25+. Note that this is based on my experiences of over two years back with RoH. I don't know much about the Gradius ones though; never seen anything beyond the 22-24 ones.

I still have fond memories of the powerhouse that was Sauron/Snoozy grouped with both pets on before the Aramon heal-other nerf was implemented.

IMO it would be really great if Aramon clerics had some unique spell/ability to augment the power of other DK, Vampire and Lich players. There are lots of possibilities.

Also, I do think pets should be able to block melee attacker(s) from reaching the cleric - if those are lower level than the pet, with some limitations - like working on at most one or two attackers, or w/e.
Mobs using missile/magical/spell attacks would still have no problem attacking the cleric though.

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IMO it would be really great if Aramon clerics had some unique spell/ability to augment the power of other DK, Vampire and Lich players. There are lots of possibilities.

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They have the ability to get the harm spell.

I was talking about something that could buff the abilities of other players. To give an example, imagine a spell for Enoch clerics that temporarily boosts the damage bonus of paladins vs. evil opponents. Would be nice if clerics had more of a support role for their faction beyond healing spells.

The magic system is going to eventually get an overhaul, when it does stuff like this will be more than likely to be in the game.

I think paladins and DK's are strong enough as it is, I don't think they need anymore beefs. And as for clerics of enoch.. Are you serious? giving them more skills to add on the the ALREADY crazy ones they have? Come on now guys, lets talk about balance here.

true classes that can conjure can have "Crazy" pets (i don't think my pets are crazy at all btw [of course thats in comparison with other pets]) But our main Characters don't hit hard at all, as an Aramon cleric, I personally don't hit for over 25 (even on things i needle) and thats with an Elder Longsword +3. My pets hit for around the same damage as me. which would range from 14-19 (Ancient Dracolich), 7-17 (Undead Beholder), and 18-28 (Embalmed Dreadlord. Seeing how the Dracolich is my same Level, thats pretty pathetic for a level 34 Aramon Cleric.


I know that theres the new 4 level system and I know that my pets aren't up to date with it all. So I guess what I say about my pets aren't exactly Valid at the specific time till they get readjusted. (i'm not trying to complain, i hope it doesn't sound like I am..)



With that aside, Back to Luminaires' suggestion about pets blocking for its masters. I'm going to have to dissagree with that just because of the fact that I can't heal my Dracolich. and no, even with the harm spell, I can't heal it either.

As for combative spells/abilities, Aramons lack here, EXCEPT for the fact that we have pets. You guys say cast more, but how can we cast if we need to heal ourselves. 20attk damage to a mob/perm per 3 seconds will take forever, Healing doesn't kill anything, So i can stay and tank a little longer...but what will I do when all that mana is gone...

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With that aside, Back to Luminaires' suggestion about pets blocking for its masters. I'm going to have to dissagree with that just because of the fact that I can't heal my Dracolich. and no, even with the harm spell, I can't heal it either.

Except I didn't suggest that at all. That was Sauron.