Ares's Pray and Envenom

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advan
Ares's Pray and Envenom
Wednesday, October 1st, 2008 at 1:46 pm
What is Ares' Pray suppose to do? I don't see healing improving much just because +5pty. Probably because I have 1/2 penalty + 1/2 penalty for multiclass.

Ares/Assassin: Why can't I envenom? Did we take that out of the skills for multiclass?

Advan

Ocelot
Dungeonmaster
Re: Ares's Pray and Envenom
Thursday, October 2nd, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Ares pray is supposed to increase con or strength..don't remember which.
Envenom is not allowed for them, and they are not supposed to be able to be cleric/assassins anyway. If they are now, then that is broken.
"There's nothing wrong with shooting, so long as the right people get shot." --Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry in Magnum Force

advan
Re: Ares's Pray and Envenom
Thursday, October 2nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Ares' Berserk gives +3 Str, 1.25 weapon damage and -100 armor points, no flee and have to neutral to use. In actually 1.25 is barely anything compared to the negative effects of it. Rarely used.

Ares' Pray gives +5pty. This has no effect other that resist-magic. Tick is maxed out and with all the negatives of ares' healing, the +5 is not going to do anything.

Book of Knowledge still says envenom. I guess the book of knowledge is old and shouldn't be followed.

Advan

Dominus
Dungeonmaster
Re: Re: Ares's Pray and Envenom
Thursday, October 2nd, 2008 at 5:50 pm
advan wrote:
Book of Knowledge still says envenom. I guess the book of knowledge is old and shouldn't be followed.

Stop saying stupid things.

Book of Knowledge wrote:
A cleric/assassin may only pledge to Aramon, as the Cult often trains its clerics in this manner.

No more Ares/Assassins. Problem solved.

Dominus
Dungeonmaster
Re: Ares's Pray and Envenom
Thursday, October 2nd, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Looks like envenom was indeed overlooked for Cl/A. If there are any 10+ Cl/As out there, I'll manually give you envenom.

Berserk gives 1/5 damage reduction for zerkers. There currently is none, but I'm setting it at 1/7 for Ares.

Zerkers also get a stun bonus and touch of death resistance, which will be applied to Ares as well.

None of this is live yet - I'll post when it is.

advan
Re: Ares's Pray and Envenom
Thursday, October 2nd, 2008 at 6:33 pm
cool bananas. thanks. Even though I don't think any assassins ever use envenom.

Advan

luminaire
Re: Re: Ares's Pray and Envenom
Thursday, October 2nd, 2008 at 9:25 pm
advan wrote:
cool bananas. thanks. Even though I don't think any assassins ever use envenom.

Advan


advan wrote:

Ares/Assassin: Why can't I envenom? Did we take that out of the skills for multiclass?


You confuse me...is your last name Palin?

Usagi
Re: Re: Re: Ares's Pray and Envenom
Thursday, October 2nd, 2008 at 11:24 pm
luminaire wrote:
advan wrote:
cool bananas. thanks. Even though I don't think any assassins ever use envenom.

Advan


advan wrote:

Ares/Assassin: Why can't I envenom? Did we take that out of the skills for multiclass?


You confuse me...is your last name Palin?


Ouch, haha. Although, I remember asking around about envenom when considering M/A and it does seem like no one uses it. Maybe the damage done vs poison costs aren't worth it? Or are people just lazy? =P

disaron
Re: Ares's Pray and Envenom
Thursday, October 2nd, 2008 at 11:29 pm
daerak wants envenom

luminaire
Re: Ares's Pray and Envenom
Thursday, October 2nd, 2008 at 11:59 pm
On mobs it isn't really worth it from a cost/benefit standpoint and it doesn't really work on perms - and, last I knew, you don't get exp from dmg done by poison.

The only practical use I can see for it is pk'ing...which is hard to do if you're the only one logged on Smile

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