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Dominus
Dungeonmaster
Re: bug?
Friday, August 8th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Hmm, it's the same formula, and I think Disaron (or was it Delta?) tested it this morning and said it worked...

One thing changed - armor reduction only works for attacks defined as PHYSICAL (as opposed to MAGICAL or MENTAL), so that probably shouldn't have happened. I'm not sure what it was before, but I think it was the same. I'll check.

Feel free to leave Limbo, but be careful - I won't have time to look at it until Monday (maybe Sunday if I'm lucky). If it is indeed a bug I'll give you your exp back.

Dominus
Dungeonmaster
Re: bug?
Friday, August 8th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
It was indeed a bug - I restored your exp/realms and removed your death-sickness.

advan
Re: bug?
Saturday, August 9th, 2008 at 2:34 am
Thanks. No sweat. We are just p-testers anyways, right. I still like being the highest kamira though.

zale
Re: bug?
Saturday, August 9th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
odd..any idea why i hadn't fleed? i was idle..but usually lagprotect kicks in and flees me out

(233 H 50 M 2,033,629X): A seraphic defender just arrived.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): A seraphic defender just arrived.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): A seraphic defender just arrived.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): A fisher priest just arrived.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar just arrived.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): A fisher priest just arrived.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar pokes you.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar tries to hide in the shadows.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): A seraphic defender just wandered away.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar starts following you.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar gave a hazy potion to you.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 2nd seraphic defender picked up a corbite morning star.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): A seraphic defender just arrived.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar tries to hide in the shadows.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): A seraphic defender just arrived.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar pokes you.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar searches the room.
She found something!
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar tries to hide in the shadows.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): A fisher priest just wandered away.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar attacks the fisher priest.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 4th seraphic defender attacks you.
The 3rd seraphic defender attacks Lkuzar.
The fisher priest hit Lkuzar for 14 damage, she's a little battered.
The 2nd seraphic defender attacks you.
The seraphic defender attacks you.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 4th seraphic defender attacks Lkuzar.
The 3rd seraphic defender attacks you.
The seraphic defender attacks Lkuzar.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar acks.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 2nd seraphic defender attacks Lkuzar.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar removed a hardwood staff.
The 4th seraphic defender tried to kick Lkuzar!
The 3rd seraphic defender tried to kick you.
The fisher priest hit Lkuzar for 12 damage, she's getting bruised.
The seraphic defender tried to kick Lkuzar!
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar flees to the east.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): A Bergen militiaman just arrived.
(234 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 3rd seraphic defender hit you for 15 damage.
(219 H 52 M 2,033,629X): You manage to partially block the 2nd seraphic defender's attack!
The 2nd seraphic defender tried to kick you.
The 4th seraphic defender hit you for 13 damage.
The 3rd seraphic defender hit you for 14 damage.
Your electric-plated neckguard just got a little more scratched.
The seraphic defender picked up a holy idol.
The seraphic defender hit you for 15 damage.
(177 H 52 M 2,033,629X): You manage to partially block the 4th seraphic defender's attack!
The 4th seraphic defender hit you for 7 damage.
The 3rd seraphic defender missed you.
The 2nd seraphic defender hit you for 13 damage.
Your mithril-plated helm just got a little more scratched.
The seraphic defender hit you for 13 damage.
Your mithril-plated gloves just got a little more scratched.
(144 H 52 M 2,033,629X): ### Lkuzar group mentioned, "shit".
(144 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 4th seraphic defender tried to kick you.
The 3rd seraphic defender tried to kick you.
The 2nd seraphic defender hit you for 12 damage.
Your mithril-plated buckler just got a little more scratched.
You manage to partially block the seraphic defender's attack!
The seraphic defender tried to kick you.
(145 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar just arrived.
(145 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar casts a mend-wounds spell on you.
(165 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 4th seraphic defender hit you for 12 damage.
Your electric-plated neckguard just got a little more scratched.
The 3rd seraphic defender hit you for 12 damage.
The fisher priest hit Lkuzar for 15 damage, she's getting bruised.
The 2nd seraphic defender missed you.
The seraphic defender hit you for 14 damage.
(127 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar removed a hardwood staff.
(127 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar lays her hand upon your pate.
You regain 53 hit points.
You feel much better now.
(180 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 4th seraphic defender missed you.
Your practice pays off, you have become better at Defense!
(180 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 3rd seraphic defender hit you for 14 damage.
The fisher priest casts a mend-wounds spell on himself.
The 2nd seraphic defender tried to kick you.
The seraphic defender hit you for 13 damage.
(153 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar casts a vigor spell on you.
(170 H 52 M 2,033,629X): A fisher priest just arrived.
You manage to partially block the 4th seraphic defender's attack!
The 4th seraphic defender hit you for 6 damage.
(164 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 3rd seraphic defender tried to kick you.
The fisher priest hit Lkuzar for 14 damage, she's noticeably bleeding.
The 2nd seraphic defender hit you for 14 damage.
Your mithril-plated buckler just got a little more scratched.
You manage to partially block the seraphic defender's attack!
The seraphic defender tried to kick you.
(150 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar casts a vigor spell on you.
(166 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The Bergen militiaman just wandered to the east.
The 4th seraphic defender tried to kick you.
(166 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 3rd seraphic defender hit you for 12 damage.
The fisher priest hit Lkuzar for 15 damage, she doesn't look too good.
You manage to partially block the 2nd seraphic defender's attack!
The 2nd seraphic defender hit you for 7 damage.
The seraphic defender hit you for 13 damage.
(134 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar flees to the east.
(147 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 4th seraphic defender hit you for 12 damage.
You manage to partially block the 3rd seraphic defender's attack!
The 3rd seraphic defender hit you for 6 damage.
(129 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 2nd seraphic defender hit you for 14 damage.
The seraphic defender hit you for 13 damage.
(102 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 4th seraphic defender hit you for 12 damage.
The 3rd seraphic defender hit you for 14 damage.
Your chimera hide leggings just got a little more scratched.
The 2nd seraphic defender picked up a holy idol.
The 2nd seraphic defender tried to kick you.
The seraphic defender hit you for 14 damage.
Your mithril-plated buckler just got a little more scratched.
(62 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar just arrived.
(62 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar casts a mend-wounds spell on you.
(84 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 4th seraphic defender tried to kick you.
You manage to partially block the 3rd seraphic defender's attack!
The 3rd seraphic defender tried to kick you.
The fisher priest hit Lkuzar for 15 damage, she's noticeably bleeding.
The 2nd seraphic defender hit you for 13 damage.
The seraphic defender tried to kick you.
(71 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 4th seraphic defender hit you for 12 damage.
The 3rd seraphic defender hit you for 13 damage.
The fisher priest hit Lkuzar for 14 damage, she doesn't look too good.
The 2nd seraphic defender hit you for 13 damage.
The seraphic defender hit you for 13 damage.
(20 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar casts a mend-wounds spell on you.
(38 H 52 M 2,033,629X): ### Lkuzar group mentioned, "zale".
(51 H 52 M 2,033,629X): You manage to partially block the 4th seraphic defender's attack!
The 4th seraphic defender hit you for 6 damage.
The 3rd seraphic defender hit you for 13 damage.
The fisher priest hit Lkuzar for 15 damage, she's beginning to stagger.
The 2nd seraphic defender missed you.
The seraphic defender missed you.
(32 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar casts a mend-wounds spell on you.
(50 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 4th seraphic defender missed you.
You manage to partially block the 3rd seraphic defender's attack!
The 3rd seraphic defender hit you for 7 damage.
The fisher priest hit Lkuzar for 16 damage, she has some nasty wounds.
The 2nd seraphic defender tried to kick you.
You manage to partially block the seraphic defender's attack!
The seraphic defender hit you for 7 damage.
(36 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar casts a mend-wounds spell on you.
(52 H 52 M 2,033,629X): You manage to partially block the 4th seraphic defender's attack!
The 4th seraphic defender tried to kick you.
The 3rd seraphic defender tried to kick you.
The fisher priest hit Lkuzar for 15 damage, she is about to die!
The 2nd seraphic defender hit you for 12 damage.
The seraphic defender tried to kick you.
(40 H 52 M 2,033,629X): Lkuzar flees to the east.
(40 H 52 M 2,033,629X): The 4th seraphic defender hit you for 11 damage.
The 3rd seraphic defender hit you for 12 damage.
You manage to partially block the 2nd seraphic defender's attack!
The 2nd seraphic defender hit you for 7 damage.
The seraphic defender hit you for 13 damage.
The seraphic defender killed you!
### Sadly, Zale was killed by a seraphic defender.
You have become afflicted with death sickness.
You have lost 203327 experience.
You have deleveled to level twenty-five!
You have lost strength.
You are now less able to resist traps and death.
You drop your weapon.

Usagi
Re: bug?
Saturday, August 9th, 2008 at 2:47 pmEdits: 6   Last Edit: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 2:53 pm
The only thing I can think of is that Usagi is extremely blue, but her alignment has never affected her ability to hit until now. At the moment, I can't hit anything at all since the mob dodges or I constantly miss. Yet, I am able to hit anything once I wield claws.

If this is a change in effects of alignment, shouldn't it be that I miss just as much with claws wielded?

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Quote:
(56 H 15 M): You attack the large skeleton.
The large skeleton dances gracefully around your attack.
(63 H 13 M): You missed.
(69 H 13 M): The large skeleton hit you for 5 damage.
(69 H 13 M): The large skeleton dances gracefully around your attack.
(64 H 13 M): The large skeleton hit you for 5 damage.
(64 H 13 M): The large skeleton easily ducks under your pitifully executed attack.
(64 H 13 M): You wield some enchanted claws (+3).
(64 H 13 M): Holding: Usagi's heart (+4)
Wielded: some enchanted claws (+3)
(64 H 13 M): Vigor spell cast.
The large skeleton hit you for 4 damage.
(68 H 11 M): You slashed the large skeleton for 45 damage.
(68 H 11 M): You slashed the large skeleton for 44 damage.
(68 H 11 M): The large skeleton hit you for 4 damage.
(64 H 11 M): Vigor spell cast.
(74 H 9 M): You gutted the large skeleton for 46 damage.
(74 H 9 M): The large skeleton hit you for 5 damage.
(69 H 11 M): CRITICAL hit!
You gutted the large skeleton for 197 damage.
You killed the large skeleton.
You gain 240 experience for the death of the large skeleton.

Usagi
Re: bug?
Saturday, August 9th, 2008 at 6:54 pmEdits: 1   Last Edit: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 6:55 pm
Zale and I just tried to reproduce the bug or whatever it is. We noticed the problem when Sethel turned grey, he started getting attacked just like Zale, even though I was the only one that attacked the fisher. Sethel was hidden at the time too.

Quote:
Fisher God Altar

People come here to worship the Fisher God. He brings luck and he
is the god of sailors. People normally worship him in this town,
but lately many people have been sleeping in here. They are
afraid they will disappear like many others have in this town.
Most of the remaining villagers think being in this altar will
make them safe. Perhaps it will. Or maybe it won't.
Obvious exits: east.
You see two fisher priests.
You see a corbite morning star, two glowing hammers, thirteen holy idols, five orangish scrolls, a silver-tubed scroll, a wooden hammer.

(186 H 53 M): A seraphic defender just arrived.
(200 H 53 M): You attack the fisher priest.
You missed.
(200 H 53 M): The seraphic defender attacks you.
(200 H 53 M): The seraphic defender attacks Sethel.
(200 H 53 M): Vigor spell cast.
(210 H 51 M): The fisher priest easily dodges your attack.
(210 H 51 M): Please wait 2.8 more seconds.
The fisher priest hit you for 10 damage.
(200 H 51 M): The seraphic defender tried to kick Sethel!
(200 H 51 M): ### Sethel group mentioned, "see there it is".
(200 H 51 M): The fisher priest easily ducks under your pitifully executed attack.
(200 H 51 M): The fisher priest stunned you.
Usagi avoided a full stun.
You avoided a full stun.
(200 H 51 M): The command "kf" does not exist.
(200 H 51 M): ### Sethel group mentioned, "it attacked me".

luminaire
Re: Re: bug?
Saturday, August 9th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Usagi wrote:
Zale and I just tried to reproduce the bug or whatever it is. We noticed the problem when Sethel turned grey, he started getting attacked just like Zale, even though I was the only one that attacked the fisher. Sethel was hidden at the time too.

Quote:
Fisher God Altar

People come here to worship the Fisher God. He brings luck and he
is the god of sailors. People normally worship him in this town,
but lately many people have been sleeping in here. They are
afraid they will disappear like many others have in this town.
Most of the remaining villagers think being in this altar will
make them safe. Perhaps it will. Or maybe it won't.
Obvious exits: east.
You see two fisher priests.
You see a corbite morning star, two glowing hammers, thirteen holy idols, five orangish scrolls, a silver-tubed scroll, a wooden hammer.

(186 H 53 M): A seraphic defender just arrived.
(200 H 53 M): You attack the fisher priest.
You missed.
(200 H 53 M): The seraphic defender attacks you.
(200 H 53 M): The seraphic defender attacks Sethel.
(200 H 53 M): Vigor spell cast.
(210 H 51 M): The fisher priest easily dodges your attack.
(210 H 51 M): Please wait 2.8 more seconds.
The fisher priest hit you for 10 damage.
(200 H 51 M): The seraphic defender tried to kick Sethel!
(200 H 51 M): ### Sethel group mentioned, "see there it is".
(200 H 51 M): The fisher priest easily ducks under your pitifully executed attack.
(200 H 51 M): The fisher priest stunned you.
Usagi avoided a full stun.
You avoided a full stun.
(200 H 51 M): The command "kf" does not exist.
(200 H 51 M): ### Sethel group mentioned, "it attacked me".

This is how it's always been if you're grouped.

Usagi
Re: bug?
Saturday, August 9th, 2008 at 8:43 pmEdits: 1   Last Edit: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 8:45 pm
Oh, I can understand the group aggro thing. I neglected to emphasize that my concern was with the aura change. We were there for a while, trying to figure out what was going on but nothing was happening since we were both blue. They started doing that once Sethel turned grey. Defenders don't usually aggro you until you're red, if I recall correctly.

zerk
Re: bug?
Saturday, August 9th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
yea.. if he's grey he shouldn't be attacked. i used to group with duo at fishes to align and i just sat there chatting while he was finishing up.. never got aggro... Plus sethel was hidden to, so dont believe he should've been atked

luminaire
Re: bug?
Sunday, August 10th, 2008 at 4:18 amEdits: 1   Last Edit: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 4:22 am
1) You can be grey but still be either - or + align and still be aggro'd as such.

2) I agree that Sethel shouldn't have been attacked since he was in fact hidden.

  a) The reason he was able to be attacked is because mobs auto-add group
     members to their attack list and once you're on the attack list you
     are fair game, hidden or not. (ie, you attack a fisher, flee out and 
     sneak back in)

  b) I think the easiest fix to this would be removing the auto-add
     function.

  c) An alternative solution could be for auto-adding aggro to check for
     hidden group members in the same room (or members not in the room at 
     all) and not add them.

     - I've always found it a bit silly that a group member all the way
       across the world can be added to mobs' attack lists just because
       they're in you're party.

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